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[electricland]

We hates* the "span" tag, precious. Oh yes, we do.

Why am I spending my afternoons up to my elbows in crappy eWebEdit-generated HTML code, again?

*Except on the very rare occasions when we needs it, that is.

Comments

[pretentiousgit.livejournal.com]

Because MS refuses to have IE comply to internet standards, and not everyone is bright enough to realize that Firefox isn't just a conspiracy, but is actually an improvement?

[electricland.livejournal.com]

this isn't fair! you and metawidget actually know what you're talking about!

but it's certainly a possibility.

[pretentiousgit.livejournal.com]

Heh. I only know even remotely what I'm saying 'cause I spent last summer in slow agony, learning new web-programming standards by hand and then trying to make cascading style sheets (basically the visible "design" of the page) work properly. And they wouldn't. Because, essentially, Microsoft wrote Internet Explorer to accurately process only redundant-shit Word/Frontpage HTML, and nothing else.

IE actually doesn't process web standards that have been available since the late 1990s. Using it is like using a black-and-white aerial-based television to try to see HDTV shows, and forcing all HDTV developers to produce their shows on super-8 film at the same time as their magical Digital Whatever versions so that people can see them.

And then people complain the picture isn't clear.
Sometimes people protest that the super-8 is, in fact, "better" than the HDTV.

Like my housemate.
hotbutton topic grumble-mutter

[electricland.livejournal.com]

there, there. *pet*

Your explanation makes more sense now, although I'm still going to blame some of it on eWebEdit, because what else is it doing for me?

[metawidget]

We likes classed spans, when no other tag provides a general superclass for phrase-level information, but yes, we hates most automatically generated spans.

You're on the front lines because someone who cared less might edit it all in Word "HTML" and then the world would be a marginally crappier place.

[electricland.livejournal.com]

Ah, thank you.

It's always mildly embarrassing when I post something about which I know just barely more than nothing and get a knowledgeable reply back. But even I know about Word's crappy HTML. ;)

[punmeister.livejournal.com]

span is your friend, if you treat him right; I've seen him many a time today, helping to get the CSS juuusssst right. (Of course the higher-ups then say stuff like "No, I don't like the way my idea looks now that I can actually see it, change it back to the way you had it in the first place.")

[electricland.livejournal.com]

Well, to give you an idea of what I was dealing with:

< p class="bodytext" > < span class="bodytext" > some text < /span > < a glossary tag > glossary word < /a > < span class="bodytext" > some more text < /span > ...

... ad infinitum is NOT treating him right. *eyeroll* ()

[electricland.livejournal.com]

Um. And I'm not at all sure what that last tag is doing. I assume it was an < a > that got away from me. *blush*

[electricland.livejournal.com]

And, yes, that's what higher-ups do. Welcome to the wonderful world of internal projects. ;)